âI want to cry, Mr. Mimsâ: Officer worried band directorâs tasing sows distrust of police, body cam shows
Minutes after Birmingham police tased Minor High School band director Johnny Mims, an officer stood next to a cruiser SUV and worried aloud what effect the chaotic scene had on the students in the stand.
In body cam video provided by Mims’ attorney, the officer spoke to the handcuffed Mims — a week ago today — and expressed fear the incident would foster distrust of the police among those who witnessed it.
“I want to cry, Mr. Mims,” the officer tells the band director as the two men, both of whom are Black, conversed.
“How are we ever going to fix this? Now the band wants to hate the police. .. I got to get up to your school and fix this. To bridge this gap. And all you had to do was comply.”
Referring to the students who witnessed the tasing, the officer said: “Right now I care about that babies on that bus that aren’t going to trust the police because of this situation.”
Mims denied that he inflamed the situation, saying on the body cam footage that he told an officer that he was going to play one more song and then the band would leave the game against Jackson-Olin High School.
“I did not allow it to escalate. I told him this is the last song,” Mims said.
The officer who tased Mims suggested he did not take pleasure in deploying his stun gun to the band director.
“This might be the worst thing I ever did, bro,” the officer says in the body cam footage. “You know, you didn’t want to listen, bro.”
Officers also claimed that Mims tried to “swipe at an officer,” which the band director denied.
“I didn’t. I said, ‘Please let me go,’” Mims says in the footage.
The exchanges with police were captured in the new footage obtained by Mims’ attorney, state Rep. Jundalynn Givan.
Officers told Mims to stop the band’s “5th Quarter” performance, but body cam footage released Monday by Birmingham police showed the band director continuing to conduct the band, telling an officer to “get out of my face.”
During the officers’ interaction with Mims, the decision was made to place him in custody.
Officers attempted to take Mims into custody for disorderly conduct when a physical altercation ensued between the band director, Birmingham City Schools System security personnel, and Birmingham officers, police have said.
During the physical altercation, police say Birmingham officers attempted to get Mims to place his hands behind his back, but he refused.
The arresting officer alleges Mims pushed him during the arrest. The arresting officer then subdued Mims with a taser.
On Monday, Givan called the incident an egregious violation of civil rights, and said Mims was subjected to excessive force and wrongful arrest.
During a news conference with the Alabama Education Association, Mims said he was just doing his job.
“It’s heartbreaking, it’s traumatizing,” Mims said. “There’s no way to explain how I am doing because I know my students are hurting.”
Mims was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment and resisting arrest. He is on administrative leave with pay pending ongoing investigations.